{"id":6821,"date":"2019-09-30T04:15:43","date_gmt":"2019-09-30T04:15:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/churchedge.com\/illustrations\/index.php\/2019\/09\/30\/pope-francis-on-conversion\/"},"modified":"2019-09-30T04:15:43","modified_gmt":"2019-09-30T04:15:43","slug":"pope-francis-on-conversion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/pope-francis-on-conversion\/","title":{"rendered":"Pope Francis On Conversion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A series of articles on Pope Francis&#8217;s comments on proselytizing<\/p>\n<p>EVANGELIZE, DON\u2019T PROSELYTIZE &#8211; AND THERE\u2019S A DIFFERENCE.<\/p>\n<p>People can\u2019t be coerced into the faith, they must be loved.  That is what Pope Francis is saying, and that is what his predecessors said.<\/p>\n<p> http:\/\/www.aleteia.org\/en\/religion\/article\/should-we-proselytize-5829569848279040<br \/>\n________<\/p>\n<p>In this week\u2019s interview with atheist newspaper publisher Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis commented that \u201cproselytization is solemn nonsense.\u201d  Christians who have converted to the Catholic faith, missionaries, and those involved in apostolates that work helping people to convert to Catholicism were offended.  When Pope Francis said \u201cproselytization is solemn nonsense\u201d and re-assured Eugenio Scalfari that he did not intend to convert him, they heard the Pope saying that evangelization was a waste of time and that converting people to Catholicism was \u201cnonsense.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pope Francis does not have the theologian\u2019s precision that characterized Pope Benedict XVI nor the philosopher\u2019s clarity of thought and expression that marked Bl. Pope John Paul II.  He is a pastoral Pope, interested in people and passionate about meeting them on their own terms, wherever they are.  Unfortunately, Pope Francis seems more concerned with the individual contact and warm personal style than he does with clarity of teaching.<\/p>\n<p>To understand Pope Francis\u2019s words, we should first understand what he means by \u201cproselytization.\u201d  To proselytize is to attempt to convert someone to your religion.  This simple definition is clear enough, but the word also carries a connotation of using coercion of some sort.  To use guilt, emotional blackmail, or psychological pressure to get a person to accept a religion is both immoral and ineffective.  Even if they convert, they have done so under pressure, and thus it is not a true conversion.<\/p>\n<p>To understand the Catholic approach to evangelization, it is worth considering Pope Benedict XVI\u2019s teachings on a visit to Brazil in 2007.  Addressing the Latin American Bishops, the Pope said, \u201cTo you who represent the Church in Latin America, today I symbolically entrust my encyclical Deus Caritas Est, in which I sought to point out to everyone the essence of the Christian message.\u201d  Pope Benedict then explained that the Church \u201cdoes not engage in proselytism.  Instead, she grows by \u2018attraction,\u2019 &#8230; just as Christ draws all to himself by the power of his love.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The first Christians converted the Roman Empire because of the radiant love they showed.  As John Zmirak has written,<br \/>\n     \u201cWhat impressed the Romans was how the Christians lived, and their willingness to push back against the corruptions of a dying, death-dealing culture.  Christians did not kill their unwanted infants \u2013 in fact, they went to the city gates and rescued the infants whom pagans had abandoned.  Christians did not divorce, as Romans did; they were more likely to be chaste before marriage and faithful afterward \u2013 which led Roman aristocrats to seek out Christian wives&#8230; In an increasingly totalitarian Roman state, Christians were even willing to say no to the emperor.  These radical acts of resistance to the social and political culture, carried out at personal cost that sometimes included martyrdom, won over jaded residents of the crumbling empire.\u201d<br \/>\nThis is the point Pope Francis is making: people must be attracted by the love Christians exhibit rather than some form of emotional, psychological, or social coercion.  So in the interview, he says to Eugenio Scalfari, \u201cIt is love of others, as our Lord preached.  It is not proselytizing; it is love.  Love for one\u2019s neighbor, that leavening that serves the common good.\u201d  Scalfari replies, \u201cLove your neighbor as yourself?\u201d  And the Pope says, \u201cExactly so.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Neither Pope Benedict nor Pope Francis have any intention that Catholics should stop evangelizing.  However, they are aware that a preaching that consists only of laying down the law or presenting doctrinal precepts to be affirmed is in adequate.  Preaching the Gospel must be in words and works.  The Gospel of love must be shown through lives of self-sacrificial love.<\/p>\n<p>When Jesus commanded us to go into all the world and preach the Good News, he expected us not only to proclaim the message, but first to be transformed by it.  Once we are transformed by the Gospel of the Risen Lord, we will be able to radiate his life and love into the world with great power.  This is the same message communicated by Bl. Pope John Paul in his apostolic letter,  Into the New Millennium .<\/p>\n<p>In that manifesto for the New Evangelization, John Paul II reminds all Catholics of the primacy of love as the heart of the evangelistic effort, and with ringing tones he calls us:<br \/>\n     \u201cLet us go forward in hope!  A new millennium is opening before the Church like a vast ocean upon which we shall venture, relying on the help of Christ.  The Son of God, who became incarnate two thousand years ago out of love for humanity, is at work even today: we need discerning eyes to see this and, above all, a generous heart to become the instruments of his work&#8230; Now, the Christ whom we have contemplated and loved bids us to set out once more on our journey: \u201cGo therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit\u201d (Mt 28:19).  The missionary mandate accompanies us into the Third Millennium and urges us to share the enthusiasm of the very first Christians: we can count on the power of the same Spirit who was poured out at Pentecost and who impels us still today to start out anew, sustained by the hope \u201cwhich does not disappoint.\u201d<br \/>\n________<\/p>\n<p>Fr. Dwight Longenecker is the parish priest of Our Lady of the Rosary Church in Greenville, South Carolina.  Browse his books, visit his blog and be in touch at dwightlongenecker.com.<\/p>\n<p>==========================================<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"VksYjW440v\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/standfirminfaith.com\/\">Stand Firm<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Stand Firm&#8221; &#8212; Stand Firm\" src=\"https:\/\/standfirminfaith.com\/embed\/#?secret=VksYjW440v\" data-secret=\"VksYjW440v\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>MORE FROM THE DISASTROUS NEW POPE<\/p>\n<p>Matt Kennedy<br \/>\nOctober 1, 2013<br \/>\n________<\/p>\n<p>This time Pope Francis decides to correct Jesus\u2019 faulty missiology:<br \/>\n     \u201cProselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense.  We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us.  Sometimes after a meeting I want to arrange another one because new ideas are born and I discover new needs.  This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas.  The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good &#8230;\u201d<br \/>\nCompare with:<br \/>\n     And Jesus came and said to them, \u201cAll authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.  Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.  And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.\u201d (Matt 28:18-20)<br \/>\nIt\u2019s a good thing we have the Pope to interpret scripture for us.  I mean who would have known that when Jesus instructed his followers to make disciples of all nations and baptize them in the name of the Trinity and teach them to follow all his commands, he really meant: get to know everybody and tell them to follow their own consciences.<\/p>\n<p>In answer to a question about whether or not there is an absolute \u201cgood\u2019, the Pope answered:<br \/>\n     \u201cEach of us has a vision of good and of evil.  We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is Good &#8230;Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them.  That would be enough to make the world a better place.\u201d<br \/>\nCompare with:<br \/>\n     The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? (Jer 17:9)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNone is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.  12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.\u201d  13 \u201cTheir throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.\u201d  \u201cThe venom of asps is under their lips.\u201d  14 \u201cTheir mouth is full of curses and bitterness.\u201d  15 \u201cTheir feet are swift to shed blood; 16 in their paths are ruin and misery, 17 and the way of peace they have not known.\u201d  18 \u201cThere is no fear of God before their eyes.\u201d (Romans 3:12-18)<\/p>\n<p>And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience \u2014 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. (Eph 2:1-3)         No one is good but God alone. (Mark 10:18)<br \/>\nIt\u2019s difficult to believe that any pope asked about the nature of truth and goodness would encourage fallen human beings to follow whatever \u2018vision\u2019 of good they possess.  Not only is it morally absurd (the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, and the Klu Klux Klan were\/are all following their vision of the good) it is biblically repugnant.  No one is good but God.  The human heart is deceived.  When groups of human beings do what is right in their own eyes, it never ends well.  This is precisely why Jesus sends the Holy Spirit to convict the world of sin and rebellion (John 16:8) and commissions his church to call all human beings to repent and surrender to him.  Apart from Jesus Christ the world is not and can never be \u201ca better place\u201d no matter how much people follow their vision of good.<\/p>\n<p>Now we wait.  It shouldn\u2019t be long before we\u2019re treated to the now familiar sight of conservative Catholic bloggers desperately trying to persuade us and themselves that Pope Francis really didn\u2019t say what he said, that he was mistranslated or that he is misunderstood.  Nonsense.  The Pope is not a stupid man.  He knows the import of his words and the media\/cultural context in which he speaks them.  At some point my Catholic friends need to face facts.  This pope is a disaster for Rome.  It\u2019s not as if he is the first papal disaster &#8230; but he\u2019s the first in quite a long time.  He\u2019s going to undo at least some of John Paul II\u2019s and Benedict\u2019s work.  Liberal Catholicism will rise from the dead and gain ground.  The sooner you realize that the more prepared you\u2019ll be to endure the next 15 or so years of his papacy.<\/p>\n<p>=====================================<\/p>\n<p>THE POPE\u2019S \u2018LONG PATH\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Baptist Press<br \/>\nRussell D. Moore<br \/>\nOctober 1, 2013<br \/>\n________<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s another week and thus another interview with Pope Francis.  This one, I\u2019m sorry to say, is more than just confusing.  It\u2019s a theological wreck.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview with  La Repubblica  in Rome, the Pope responded to a question about whether there is a \u201csingle vision of good\u201d by saying, \u201cEveryone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them.  That would be enough to make the world a better place.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Pope also said, \u201cThe Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood.\u201d  When the reporter commented, \u201cSome of my colleagues who know you told me that you will try to convert me,\u201d the Pope said, \u201cProselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense.  We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>From Augustine\u2019s \u201cConfessions\u201d to \u201cWell, everyone has his own ideas about good and evil&#8230;.\u201d  is a mighty long path.<\/p>\n<p>First of all, I am a Protestant so, of course, I do not accept the church\u2019s claims about the papal chair as Vicar of Christ.  But though I protest, I don\u2019t throw rocks (no Petrine pun intended).  My mother\u2019s side of the family was and is Roman Catholic, and some of the most significant influences in my life personally and intellectually are Roman Catholics.<\/p>\n<p>Second, I don\u2019t dislike Pope Francis.  I think he is quite right about the primacy of Christ\u2019s Gospel over the culture wars.  In my much smaller pool and from my much smaller perch, I\u2019ve tried to say that outrage itself isn\u2019t a Christian virtue.  Our mission ought to be toward reconciliation, not the vaporization of our perceived enemies.<\/p>\n<p>But.<\/p>\n<p>If Pope Francis wishes to reclaim the gospel\u2019s primacy, he must simultaneously speak with kindness to those outside of its reach and speak of the need for good news.  What these interviews seem continually to do is what evangelical theologian Carl Henry warned Protestants of in the 20th century, of severing the love of God from the holiness of God.  God is, Henry said, against both the liberal Social Gospel and obscurantist and angry fundamentalism, the God of both justice and justification.<\/p>\n<p>Without speaking to the conscience, and addressing what the sinner already knows to be true about the day of giving an account, there is not love, only the consigning of the guilty conscience to accusation and condemnation.  If the church is right about the personhood of unborn children (and I think it is), then why would we not be \u201cobsessed\u201d about speaking for them, and for the women and men whose consciences are tyrannized by their past sins?<\/p>\n<p>It is not good news to say to such consciences, \u201cWell, we\u2019re all brothers and sisters,\u201d if what they feel in their psyches and read in their Bibles (and in their Catholic catechisms) is that those who commit such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.  We must speak with tenderness and gentleness, but with an authoritative word from God, that there is a means of reconciliation.  The burdened conscience doesn\u2019t wish to hear \u201cIt\u2019s all OK.\u201d  The burdened conscience is freed by \u201cThere is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ\u201d (Romans 8:1).<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s little purpose in refighting the Protestant Reformation here, but we do, in some sense, return to Martin Luther\u2019s problem.  With a guilty conscience, he could find no way to reconciliation in himself or by the purported economy of grace.  In the church, he saw rules and rituals but, in that, felt only condemnation.<\/p>\n<p>But opposite a harsh, rule-oriented Christianity is a way that is just as condemning, a way that we\u2019ve seen often in hyper-Protestant communions: the tendency to downplay sin at all.  This leaves sinners like us in a kind of earthly purgatory that never purges, and leads us to hide from the face of God because, like our first parents, we know who we are and what we\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m in no position to advise the Bishop of Rome, but I hope we\u2019ll see a fuller-orbed message from him.  I\u2019m with Pope Francis on the need for kindness but I pray it will be a convictional kindness that addresses both the reality of God\u2019s holy justice and His reconciling love.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A series of articles on Pope Francis&#8217;s comments on proselytizing EVANGELIZE, DON\u2019T PROSELYTIZE &#8211; AND THERE\u2019S A DIFFERENCE. People can\u2019t be coerced into the faith, they must be loved. That is what Pope Francis is saying, and that is what his predecessors said. http:\/\/www.aleteia.org\/en\/religion\/article\/should-we-proselytize-5829569848279040 ________ In this week\u2019s interview with atheist newspaper publisher Eugenio Scalfari, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2437,391,221,2436,387],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6821"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6821"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6821\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6821"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6821"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.churchedge.com\/illustrations\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6821"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}